For 417 amps at 150 feet on a 120V circuit, 750 kcmil copper is a common starting point under a 3% voltage-drop target. On a 240V circuit the same current often allows 750 kcmil, because the 3% allowable drop is a larger number of volts at higher source voltage. Actual install sizing still depends on conductor material, insulation/termination temperature, cable type, ambient and bundling conditions, and local code.
417A at 150ft · 120V single-phase / DC · 3% drop target
750 kcmil copper
On a 240V circuit (copper)750 kcmil
Voltage drop (120V, copper)2.14V (1.78%)
No aluminum row: every aluminum size in our reference table sits past the 3% drop target at 150 feet on 120V, or the amperage is below the 30A residential threshold where aluminum is not a typical pick. On a higher source voltage, a shorter run, or a looser drop target, aluminum is still the standard feeder material at higher amperages.
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Within the 3% branch and 5% feeder+branch total drop targets
Assumes a 120V source on a single-phase / DC circuit and a 3% voltage-drop target. Each material is picked independently against the same target, so the copper and aluminum results are two separate recommendations, not an ampacity equivalence. Switch to three-phase L-L →
How Wire Size Is Determined
Step 1: NEC Branch-Circuit Ampacity
750 kcmil branch-circuit OCP (475A) ≥ 417A ✓
The conductor needs to carry at least 417A without going past its temperature rating, and the OCP protecting it needs to respect the NEC branch-circuit cap. Under the typical assumptions used in this table (copper, 75°C termination, no bundling or ambient derates), 750 kcmil sits at a branch-circuit OCP of 475A. That is not a universal number: NM-B cable (Romex) follows the 60°C column in residential use per NEC 334.80 (750 kcmil NM-B = 400A), bundling more than three current-carrying conductors requires a 310.15(C)(1) adjustment, ambient temperatures above 30°C require a 310.15(B) correction, and 60°C terminations on typical residential equipment can pull the usable value lower still. Use the nameplate and local code for the actual install value.
Step 2: Voltage Drop Check
%VD = (2 × L × I × R) ÷ (1000 × V) × 100 (single-phase / DC; round-trip factor of 2)
NEC 210.19(A) Informational Note 4 recommends ≤ 3% for branch circuits and ≤ 5% for feeder + branch total as performance targets, not hard code requirements. This run sits within the 3% target used for this calculation.
Practical Information
What If You Go One Size Smaller?
Using 500 kcmil (one size thinner) at these inputs gives a voltage drop of 3.23V (2.69% on 120V), and its branch-circuit OCP cap under typical conditions is 380A.
Limiting factor here: branch-circuit ampacity. 500 kcmil has a branch-circuit OCP cap of 380A under the typical 75°C-termination assumptions used here, which is below the 417A load. For this load it shouldn't be used without reassessing against the actual termination temperature, cable type, ambient conditions, and any 240.4(D) or 240.4(B) provisions.
What If You Go One Size Larger?
The recommended gauge is already the largest available option.
Wattage at This Amperage
417A at 120V delivers 50,040 watts (DC / resistive load). See conversion.
417A at 150ft on 120V is commonly served by 750 kcmil copper to land under the 3% voltage-drop target, under the typical 75°C-termination assumptions used in this table. Actual install sizing also depends on conductor material, insulation and termination temperature rating, cable type, ambient and bundling conditions, and local code.
Yes, but you may need thicker wire. At 300ft on 120V, check the wire size calculator. You may need to go up one or two gauges.
Copper and aluminum are picked independently against the same drop target on this site; neither pick implies ampacity equivalence with the other. At 417A, aluminum is the industry standard for sub-panel feeders, service entrance, and utility drops. AA-8000 series aluminum is the modern feeder material; copper is still used where space is tight or terminations are copper-only. Aluminum has lower conductivity than copper, so when each material is run through the drop-target pick independently, the aluminum result typically lands one to two gauges larger than the copper result for the same duty. That gap is the result of running both picks against the same drop-target constraint, not an ampacity-equivalence rule. The install still needs anti-oxidant compound and aluminum-rated lugs.
NEC 210.19(A) Informational Note 4 recommends ≤3% for branch circuits and ≤5% total (feeder + branch). These are performance recommendations, not hard code requirements.
It depends on which factor the thinner gauge violates. If its branch-circuit ampacity is still at or above the load, the limiting factor is usually voltage drop (a performance recommendation per NEC 210.19(A) Informational Note 4, not a hard code requirement) and the symptom is dimming lights, motor startup issues, or wasted energy as I²R losses. If the thinner gauge is actually below the load's ampacity ceiling at the relevant termination temperature, that is a conductor-heating / code compliance issue, and the wire should not be used for that load. A calculator page cannot tell you which category applies to your install: verify against the conductor type, termination temperature, and install conditions.
This calculator provides estimates for reference purposes only. Always consult a licensed electrician and verify compliance with the National Electrical Code (NEC) and local electrical codes before performing any electrical work.
